Our malls must innovate to survive and Merle Hay Mall has one of the most innovative ideas in the country: the mall would become the home of the Des Moines Buccaneers and host all type of events including hockey. Liz Holland of Merle Hay Investors tells Jeff how the concept would work and then super producer Erick joins the conversation with the biggest question: will Jeff get to drive the Zamboni?
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